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Re: Important iTools 6.5 and Jaguar Information

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Subject: Re: Important iTools 6.5 and Jaguar Information
From: Erik Lotspeich <erik@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 09:11:57 -0700 (PDT)
Jim,

You bring up a good point -- there may not be any compelling reason to
upgrade to Jaguar for server purposes at the moment.  I am not aware of
any kernel enhancements of network stack speed or disk access.  Many users
have reported an increase in user-interface speed.

Unfortunately, for those users who choose UFS to support disk quotas, UFS
speed has not improved.

The advantages of OS X Server 10.2 may be compelling.  We'll look into it
and keep you updated.

Erik.

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Jim Cobb wrote:

> Is there really a compelling reason to update to 10.2 if  you don't
> need any of the features mentioned below? I know that 10.2 improved the
> front end speed but was there any improvement to the backend, i.e.
> network access, non-GUI processes?
>
> On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 11:34  PM, Erik Lotspeich wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Here is the long-awaited post from us here at Tenon regarding iTools
> > 6.5
> > and Jaguar.  I really wanted to post this information after we had all
> > of
> > the answers and our updates completed, but, since you all are so
> > eager, we
> > really can't wait anymore.  :)
> >
> > This e-mail is lengthy, but I hope that you find it interesting as it
> > contains important information.  Please read it.
> >
> > As you may or may not already know, Apple has made significant changes
> > to
> > Jaguar.  The installer, core libraries, and user interface have all
> > undergone significant changes, bug fixes and, unfortunately, the
> > introduction of bugs.
> >
> > Here are the issues and some history behind each one.
> >
> > 1. Apple's introduction of Bash.
> >
> > Apple now includes Bash version 2 in Mac OS X.  Although this is
> > welcome,
> > they have also chosen to replace "sh" with Bash also.  Although Bash
> > tries
> > to be "sh" compliant when invoked as "sh", it is not entirely
> > compatible
> > with the previous version of sh that Apple shipped with Mac OS X
> > 10.0/10.1.  Since Bash seems to be slightly more picky, it now breaks
> > the
> > installer.sh script that Apple includes.
> >
> > In order for the installer.sh script to work properly, the offending
> > code
> > needs to be commented out or removed.  We will distribute this new
> > installer.sh script both on our website and in the forthcoming iTools
> > 6.5.6 CD-ROM.
> >
> > An unfortunate issue that I just discovered this morning is that after
> > the
> > GUI multi-package installer is run, the offending broken installer.sh
> > script is replaced overwriting the correctly-working installer.sh
> > script
> > that you may have just installed.  This is annoying.
> >
> > 2. The change from curses to ncurses.
> >
> > Apple has changed its library structure so that it now uses ncurses
> > instead of the archaic curses.  The curses/ncurses libraries allow the
> > programmer to create interactive text-based programs easily.  Such
> > text-based programs can have color, mouse support, ANSI graphics, and
> > more.  This change has caused a number of interactive text-based
> > programs
> > to break including those distributed with iTools.
> >
> > 3. Cocoa API Changes
> >
> > There have been some Cocoa API changes that have resulted in the iTools
> > Manager failing to work properly.
> >
> >
> > AT THIS MOMENT, HERE IS WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T:
> >
> > What works:
> > -----------
> >
> > 1. The iTools 6.5.5 Core Package
> >
> > Although the iTools core package should work properly, a number of you
> > have reported installer issues.  I have experienced these issues in
> > certain circumstances.  I've experienced a great deal of success in
> > first
> > replacing the installer.sh script with a working one and re-installing.
> >
> > 2. Virtually all of the optional and third-party packages.
> >
> > What doesn't work:
> > ------------------
> >
> > 1. Installing the core iTools package in certain circumstances.  See
> > above.
> >
> > 2. MySQL -- The MySQL application (typing MySQL on the command line)
> >
> > 3. The iTools Manager
> >
> > WHAT WILL WORK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE:
> >
> > Everything!
> >
> > We are working very hard to release a iTools 6.5.6 that is fully Jaguar
> > compliant.  We will supply an updated PHP package, PHP version 4.2.2,
> > and
> > an updated MySQL package (that will work on Jaguar) as well.  We will
> > also
> > distribute an updated version of the iTools Manager that will work on
> > Jaguar.
> >
> > Thank you for your patience.  I will keep you informed of our progress.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Erik.
> >
> > --
> > Erik Lotspeich                              Lead Engineer
> > Tenon Intersystems                  erik@xxxxxxxxx
> > 1123 Chapala Street Ste 200         805-963-6983
> > Santa Barbara, CA 93101-3142                http://www.tenon.com/
> >
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Erik Lotspeich                          Lead Engineer
Tenon Intersystems                      erik@xxxxxxxxx
1123 Chapala Street Ste 200             805-963-6983
Santa Barbara, CA 93101-3142            http://www.tenon.com/

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