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Re: Important iTools 6.5 and Jaguar Information

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Subject: Re: Important iTools 6.5 and Jaguar Information
From: Paul Fowler <paul@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 09:11:13 -0600
I must agree, I am waiting for my new desktop machine to arrive today with
10.2 on it, but I wouldn't dream of updating my servers until Tenon assure
me all is well and there is some feedback already generated.

I am glad there are pioneers out thee testing this stuff for me while my
server runs flawlessly and I get some work done.

I really love all you guy's, but why so many of you are in such a rush to
break your servers I will never know...

Thanks Erik and the team, you are still way above the rest for bug fixes and
updates. Anyone tried Web* Mail lately? I bet they really miss Stephanie
now.

-Paul
:-) :-) :-) :-)

> Is there really a compelling reason to update to 10.2 if  you don't
> need any of the features mentioned below? I know that 10.2 improved the
> front end speed but was there any improvement to the backend, i.e.
> network access, non-GUI processes?
> 
> On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 11:34  PM, Erik Lotspeich wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Here is the long-awaited post from us here at Tenon regarding iTools
>> 6.5
>> and Jaguar.  I really wanted to post this information after we had all
>> of
>> the answers and our updates completed, but, since you all are so
>> eager, we
>> really can't wait anymore.  :)
>> 
>> This e-mail is lengthy, but I hope that you find it interesting as it
>> contains important information.  Please read it.
>> 
>> As you may or may not already know, Apple has made significant changes
>> to
>> Jaguar.  The installer, core libraries, and user interface have all
>> undergone significant changes, bug fixes and, unfortunately, the
>> introduction of bugs.
>> 
>> Here are the issues and some history behind each one.
>> 
>> 1. Apple's introduction of Bash.
>> 
>> Apple now includes Bash version 2 in Mac OS X.  Although this is
>> welcome,
>> they have also chosen to replace "sh" with Bash also.  Although Bash
>> tries
>> to be "sh" compliant when invoked as "sh", it is not entirely
>> compatible
>> with the previous version of sh that Apple shipped with Mac OS X
>> 10.0/10.1.  Since Bash seems to be slightly more picky, it now breaks
>> the
>> installer.sh script that Apple includes.
>> 
>> In order for the installer.sh script to work properly, the offending
>> code
>> needs to be commented out or removed.  We will distribute this new
>> installer.sh script both on our website and in the forthcoming iTools
>> 6.5.6 CD-ROM.
>> 
>> An unfortunate issue that I just discovered this morning is that after
>> the
>> GUI multi-package installer is run, the offending broken installer.sh
>> script is replaced overwriting the correctly-working installer.sh
>> script
>> that you may have just installed.  This is annoying.
>> 
>> 2. The change from curses to ncurses.
>> 
>> Apple has changed its library structure so that it now uses ncurses
>> instead of the archaic curses.  The curses/ncurses libraries allow the
>> programmer to create interactive text-based programs easily.  Such
>> text-based programs can have color, mouse support, ANSI graphics, and
>> more.  This change has caused a number of interactive text-based
>> programs
>> to break including those distributed with iTools.
>> 
>> 3. Cocoa API Changes
>> 
>> There have been some Cocoa API changes that have resulted in the iTools
>> Manager failing to work properly.
>> 
>> 
>> AT THIS MOMENT, HERE IS WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T:
>> 
>> What works:
>> -----------
>> 
>> 1. The iTools 6.5.5 Core Package
>> 
>> Although the iTools core package should work properly, a number of you
>> have reported installer issues.  I have experienced these issues in
>> certain circumstances.  I've experienced a great deal of success in
>> first
>> replacing the installer.sh script with a working one and re-installing.
>> 
>> 2. Virtually all of the optional and third-party packages.
>> 
>> What doesn't work:
>> ------------------
>> 
>> 1. Installing the core iTools package in certain circumstances.  See
>> above.
>> 
>> 2. MySQL -- The MySQL application (typing MySQL on the command line)
>> 
>> 3. The iTools Manager
>> 
>> WHAT WILL WORK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE:
>> 
>> Everything!
>> 
>> We are working very hard to release a iTools 6.5.6 that is fully Jaguar
>> compliant.  We will supply an updated PHP package, PHP version 4.2.2,
>> and
>> an updated MySQL package (that will work on Jaguar) as well.  We will
>> also
>> distribute an updated version of the iTools Manager that will work on
>> Jaguar.
>> 
>> Thank you for your patience.  I will keep you informed of our progress.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Erik.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Erik Lotspeich                Lead Engineer
>> Tenon Intersystems            erik@xxxxxxxxx
>> 1123 Chapala Street Ste 200        805-963-6983
>> Santa Barbara, CA 93101-3142        http://www.tenon.com/
>> 
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