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Re: xserve vs

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Subject: Re: xserve vs
From: Ron Grayson <ron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:44:16 -0500
George,

if the apache is faster on xserve but I put tenon on it... what happens then? Is it the apache that is faster of is it the through put or network that is faster?

On Jul 21, 2005, at 5:17 AM, george wrote:

Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:46:04 -0500
From: Mark Krueger <mkrueger@xxxxxxxxx>
To:  itools@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: xserve vs
Message-ID: <42DF1A7C.9070002@xxxxxxxxx>

One thing to think about is upgrade costs.

If you will never use the server features of OS X Server, then running
workstation has advantages. When the next version of OS X comes out, you
will only spend $129 to move up, vs. the full server price of $999
(since a web server will likely have more than 10 users).




The 10 limit doesn't affect web, mail, FTP, etc...only file sharing. You can
also get the $450 server...again, the limit is only for file serving. You
can also get the "maintenance agreement" for server for less than $500 and
it covers you for 3 years of upgrades...




I guess you could keep OS X Server -- since it comes with your Xserve --
until which point you decide to upgrade, but I think just sticking with
workstation all the way is cleaner. That way you won't start building
dependencies on anything included with server.


Also, my experience with OS X Server is that it isn't quite as "solid"
as workstation. By this, I'm referring to all the support software that
is included with Server. It's all OK, but just doesn't seem as nicely
built as much of what is available from 3rd parties in OS X. I honestly
feel I can find better 3rd party solutions for everything that OS X
Server does than what Apple packages in OS X Server. I think this is
because OS X Server is developed and used by a relatively small group of
users vs. workstation.




Interesting...I'm sure the apple server list would not agree on the
"relatively small group" line.
As far as being stable...it's the same exact OS. Server just has some extra
stuff in it. But I can tell you one thing for sure...the web server is
faster in server than client. And yes, that was tested on the same hardware
by many people.
Apple "tweaked" the apache code for server.
http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/macos-x-server



One point I should make is that I am not using streaming server yet. So
this might be an advantage of OS X server. But maybe Darwin Streaming
Server might be an alternative to Quicktime Streaming Server?


Also, I built my own 1U Dual-Mac OS X server for less than the cost of
an Xserve. So, buying two OS X Server licenses would have been rather
costly (additional $2000 in cost).


Here is more info about my server:

http://www.markandjo.com/markblog/?p=3

-Mark



Now _that’s_ cool!



-- Thanks, George


Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil. Jerry Garcia



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