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SvanteKleist
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posted April 17, 2001 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SvanteKleist   Click Here to Email SvanteKleist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Anybody who shares my pain?

When starting Mozilla (latest daily builds
since several weeks) from Xtools
I can't use the keyboard.

The mouse works fine however.

Any tips?

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Stefan
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posted April 17, 2001 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stefan   Click Here to Email Stefan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you using the Aqua window style?
Some X11 applications (most KDE applications) have problems with keyboard input when no window manager is running, which is the case for the Aqua style.
This is not so much a bug in Xtools but a design flaw with KDE and a little bit also conceptual problem with our Aqua style manager.
For now it helps to start a "real" window manager like twm or mwm.

..Stefan

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SvanteKleist
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posted April 18, 2001 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SvanteKleist   Click Here to Email SvanteKleist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I'm using the Aqua "window manager".

During > 10 years of UNIX/X usage, I've never encountered an application which requires that a window manager is used.
In fact, an X application is more or less
unaware of the existence of window managers.

But thanks for the tip, anyhow. I'll try
what you suggest.

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Stefan
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posted April 18, 2001 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stefan   Click Here to Email Stefan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was was I thought when I began debugging this issue with one KDE application. Turns out it does not accept keyboard input on Linux systems with Xfree either if you don't have a window manager running.

..Stefan

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SvanteKleist
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posted April 20, 2001 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SvanteKleist   Click Here to Email SvanteKleist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good gosh - you're right.

I tried to start Mozilla on my Linux machine
without a window manager - and it doesn't
accept keyboard input!

I've submitted a bug report in Bugzilla:

< http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76854 >

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SvanteKleist
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posted April 20, 2001 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SvanteKleist   Click Here to Email SvanteKleist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

And for what it's worth:

I'm not using KDE, but Gnome.

(And Mozilla isn't a "KDE" application,
rather an "X application".)

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Stefan
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posted April 20, 2001 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stefan   Click Here to Email Stefan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, my statement was not very informed. I was referring to X11 applications using the Gnome toolkit, which I associate with KDE.
I noticed similar behavior with other applications as well. Seems not to be specific to Mozilla.

..Stefan

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welner
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posted April 20, 2001 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for welner   Click Here to Email welner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fwit...sounds very similar to the bug that they had (and seems to still exist) when running star office..the mouse works, keyboard is dead, and remains dead in all open X apps until you restart XTools..

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SvanteKleist
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posted April 20, 2001 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SvanteKleist   Click Here to Email SvanteKleist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
welner,

You don't have an URL describing those problems with Star Office? Might be useful for the Mozilla guys.

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yaro
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posted April 21, 2001 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yaro   Click Here to Email yaro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are you guys running mozilla adn star office in xfree in osx? Is that what you are saying?

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SvanteKleist
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posted April 22, 2001 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SvanteKleist   Click Here to Email SvanteKleist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Not me. Running Mozilla on linux,
with DISPLAY on Mac OS X / Xtools.

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welner
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posted April 23, 2001 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for welner   Click Here to Email welner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SvanteKleist,

here is the url describing the problem, but there is no resolution to the problem, just the report of it.
http://www.tenon.com/products/xtools/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000043.html

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